Friday, May 22, 2009

The War Ends Now: All Sins Are (Not) Equal or Gays are not Rapist and Pedophiles.

I want to take a moment and address a point my friend made on my past blog. It has been easy for Christians to lump sexual sins together. In fact, it was called out to me. In my first response, I mentioned pedophile priests and predator youth group leaders.

Faktb said: “So let’s be clear to express our disapproval of pedophile priests, corrupt youth pastors, and yes, homosexuality.”

That’s my problem, I don’t believe you can lump homosexuality with the other sexual sins.

All my Christian life, I was told that sin is sin and God hates them all. That’s true. But you have to admit that some sins are worse and have greater repercussions, especially the sins that can change and alter the life of the victim of that sin. My child lying to me about hiding my car keys has little comparison to rape.

Be that as it may let’s go down the list of sexual sins:

  • Rape – Physically forcing a victim to have sex with you. Violating physically another person.
  • Sodomy – See Rape.
  • Pedophilia – Physically forcing a child to have sex with you. Coercing a child into having sex.
  • Molestation – Physically touching a child for the assailant’s sexual pleasure.
  • Incest – Physically forcing yourself upon your child. Coercing your son/daughter, niece/nephew, etc. into having sex.
  • Child Pornography/Exploitation – Capturing the image of children in lewd and suggestive position for sexual pleasure.
  • Homosexuality – Two people of the same gender expressing their feelings in the same way two people of opposite genders do.

Try as you might, but you’re comparing apples and oranges. The first six sins on the list are sins against another human being. They are actions of violence, power, manipulations and the ultimate in selfishness. It is one person forcing their will upon another in a heinous and violent way.

You bring up the example of Sodom and Gamorrah. Sodom was not judged because it was a city of homosexuals. It was judged because the citizens had become so hardened in their sinful life that they decided they would attempt to rape God’s representatives.

The “sin” of Homosexuality on the other hand is not a “sin” of violence, but a sin against God’s design. In the beginning, God made us male and female in order procreate. God wanted humans to grow in numbers and the only way to do that was for male and female to “hook up” in a marriage and produce children. Look at all of the verses in the Bible regarding homosexuality and you’ll see that the “sin” is one of design and not violence.

So my fellow Christian believers please refrain from comparing Homosexuals with rapists and pedophiles.

7 comments:

Anning said...

Well said!

Laurie

faktb said...

Greetings!

Incest does not usually involve coercion.

Homosexuality should be placed then in the same category as adultery and incest.

As Christians we must speak the truth (in love of course). This means that we affirm that:

1. Adulterous relationships are wrong.
2. Incestuous relationships are wrong.
3. Homosexual relationships are wrong.

And we must do out best in affirming all three at the same time.

Thank you for the thoughtful update. Bless you dear brother.

My Pal Al said...

I'm sorry, but this is why Christian have had problem relating to and ministering to people who are victims of sexual crimes.

For you to say that Incest does not usually involve coercion shows a great deal of ignorance. How do I know? Believe me, I've personally heard dozens of stories of victims of incest and none have ever done it willingly.

Please explain to me how a father can have sex with his 8-year old daughter is not coercion. Please explain how a teenage brother having sex with his 10-year old sister is not coercion. Even an uncle seducing a teenage niece or nephew, rarely does the victim ever do it willingly.

The worse part is that the perpetrator can often convince/coerce his victim into a "marriage."

My advice to you is before you make strong statement like that, do as Christ said. Be salt and light in the world, talk to some gays and get to know them personally. Spend time with victims of sexual sin. You'll find more than a "sinner". You'll see the some "lost" person that Jesus saw when he would minister to the individual.

My Pal Al said...

Finally based on the blog I wrote, you can not liken Adultery to Homosexuality either.

Adultery involved the breaking of a bond and commitment between two people who previously made a commitment to each other. It is an act of betrayal against the innocent spouse. It is an act of betrayal against any children that might have been produced by the marriage.

Homosexuality involves to willing persons who deeply love each other the same way a man and woman would.

faktb said...

Thank you for the clarification.

From what I understand of your position, since you support voluntary homosexual relationships (two people who love one another),

Then you support voluntary incestuous relationships (a brother & sister or a father & daughter [of age] who love one another).

Also you support pre-marital adulterous relationships (i.e. fornication) in which an adult man and a woman love one another.

If I'm mistaken, please excuse me. I'm just trying to understand your position.

Do you agree with this statement?

As Christians we must with loving compassion and gentleness speak the truth in saying that homosexual relationships are not right in the eyes of God.

Love & truth - the biblical combination. :) I think it's the only way to approach this sensitive situation. We do it with much love (gentleness & compassion in speech & manner), but we also never sacrifice the truth. Bless you.

faktb said...

I think we are coming to the crux of the issue. Thanks to our great discussions, I believe I see what is at stake here. So my question to you is:

Does the Bible tell us that we ought to NOT tell the truth in any situation?

I think that is where there is an oversight. Your love for homosexuals is admirable and wonderful, but have you perhaps forgotten that we must be truthful about the sinfulness of homosexuality at the same time?

The other day I expressed my love and friendship to my lesbian friend. But at the same time, I politely let her know that homosexuality is not right. I felt that this is what Jesus would have done. What do you think? Do you think Jesus, after communicating his love to her, would have told her that homosexuality is right?

My Pal Al said...

Sorry, I haven't responded in a while, but I've been a little busy. No, of course, I don't support incest or adultery. No sure if you're trying to be cute or if you're really serious.

If you read the original blog, incest is wrong because it involves coercion. Again, as a person who personally knows people who have been victims of incest, it is never a consenting relationship.

Regarding adultery, it may involve two consenting adults, it also involves a third party, i.e. the spouse and any children in the relationship. Hardly a victimless crime.

I believe what you're trying to get at is this whole slippery slope argument. If we legalize gay marriage, then we might as well legalize incest, etc. I'll address this later, but gay marriage is vastly different than incest. (read original blog).